Friday I just passed my TSHOOT exam - I'm a CCNP now! Everybody says: "Wow! You are a CCNP! Huh".
When I opened my first Cisco book on 01/01/2011 (ICND1), I thinked it would be an amazing result to become a CCNP one day... A CCNP knows very lot... In routing, in switching, in general. I passed my CCENT on 11/03/2011 and my CCNA on 25/07/2011. After that I started to learn for CCNP... And now, I'm a CCNP. I should be proud for that, but I'm not. Why? Because a lot of cheeters, braindumpers out there. I know some very good CCNPs - and some very bad CCNPs. I worked hard for my certificate (for 8 months), but a lot of people did their within one week... Cheaters. Dumpers. And I'm very angry, because in paper we are the same - CCNP-CCNP, system engineer-system engineer. When we are at the CLI, we are not the same - these people can't configure a simple etherchannel or OSPF stub area... But they are CCNPs. I hope Cisco can do anything with that.
I know one solution: CCIE. These people never can do that. Maybe I can't. But if I could do, we wouldn't be at the same level (in official).
Have a nice day,
Agree with those above. Be proud of your accomplishment. You've worked hard and earned your recognition. Your peers in networking will be able to differentiate you from those that "brain dumped" fairly quickly. Your knowledge will be visible in how you talk with them. Trust me, those who have the paper but lack the knowledge will also be known by their peers.
Some will slip by - such is life. But keep working hard and sharpening your skills and you will not be overtaken by them. The worst they can do is leave you a mess of a network when you replace them...and that will be your time to shine.
Congratulations on the CCNP!
Don't get angry about the brain dumps. Just be wary of any company that offers you a job without something of a technical interview. Those are the companies where the brain dumps typically work. When you get through your first technical interview and get offered a job you will know you're going to be working with a non-brain dump team.
I've interviewed and hired/fired people. I can tell when someone just studied to take a test and has no real understanding of the material. These people usually know definitions but can't tell you how the protocols and concepts apply to real world situations.
Cisco keeps adding more simulations and making those simulations more complex specifically to make it harder for people to study for the test. It keeps the certification valuable. Don't let the brain dumps get you down but do work toward the CCIE.
Unfortunately, as long as there are achievements worth achieving, there will always be people taking shortcuts to get to a place they don't deserve to be.
Feel proud of your accomplishment, you worked hard for it.
Congratulations and best regards
Ferenc Kuris! congratulate you on becoming CCNP. Also I do agree with you and others who are cheaters, dumpers cannot do CCIE. But we can do it. Don't pay attention to such people.
Don't worry, be happy I do respect only who has knowledge.
Congrats on the certification!
I've worked on plenty of RCA's myself with "CCNP" certified individuals that ended up doing some horrible things to production networks. Working in a field where even the simplest of changes are usually logged and can bring business to a grinding halt, incompetence isn't the best way to go. Don't worry, those folks will end up finding a way to get fired via CLI soon enough.
You mentioned cheaters/dumpers, but there are also people who are more capable than their cert's indicate. It sounds like you're angry because you're starting to realize that cert's don't mean what many people think they mean. It's not possible to represent a person's current knowledge/ability as a number or acronym, but that doesn't stop some people from trying to judge a book by its cover.
You should be proud of the knowledge you've acquired, and of the things you accomplish with that knowledge. Today it's a cert, tomorrow it will be networks and their surrounding support systems. Rational employers will recognize excellence in the results of your work. Congrat's!
a friend of mine, ccie voice, quite an engineer... i asked him one day what happens when you get stumped on a project, or a problem... he said his go to guy was fred, a co-worker... he said fred was the most amazing network guy he had ever known... fred was not certified... then... not a good test taker...
the cert is only proof you know what you're talking about if you really know what you're talking about...
otherwise, it's meaningless...
Don't be proud. Be confident. Companies are aware of cheaters, most of them now are giving technical interviews. Your knowledge will outstand among others. I happened to be in a Cisco project through a GoldPartner and they tested every topic within the CCNP level and a little bit more. I passed with honors, but I know of others who didn't get the job and they were " CCNP" with ISP experience.
Cheaters will be caught sooner or later, but yes I do understand how you feel, sometimes I feel the same and ask to myself if all of this is worth it.