i did my ccna and i started preparing Route exam and almost completed the prepartion but if i give the exam now i need to complete all the remaining exams of ccip before the retireing date,so if i give the ROUTE exam now does it equal to SPROUTE so that i can go for the CCNP Servivce provider ..please clarify my doubt..
Yes, the 642-902 ROUTE exam will give you credit towards the 642-883 SPROUTE for the CCNP Service Provider Certification.
Please note that the CCIP Certification will be retired on October 28, 2012 and no new CCIP Certifications will be issued starting October 29, 2012.
Individuals with a valid CCIP Certification will only need to pass the 642-887 SPCORE and 642-889 SPEDGE exams to become certified in CCNP Service Provider.
Additional information and FAQ's can be found by visiting https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-14595
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The answer is Yes and No.
if you pass 642-902 , then pass SPADVROUTE,SPCORE and SPEDGE that would complete the CCNP SP but you would not get the certificate because the requisite for CCNP SP is different unlike CCIP which has the pre-requisite of just CCNA.
Rigo,please correct me if I go wrong.
If you pass the ROUTE, SPADVROUTE, SPCORE, and SPEDGE exams for CCNP Service Provider, you will still be required to fulfill the pre-requisite requirement, which is a valid CCNA Service Provider certification (OR a valid CCIE certification can act as a pre-requisite) and pass the required exams.
However, if you have a valid CCIP certification, then you will not be required to achieve the CCNA Service Provider certification because a valid CCIP will also fulfill the pre-requisite requirement for the CCNP Service Provider certification. Individuals with a valid CCIP certification will only need to take and pass two exams to become certified in CCNP Service Provider - 642-887 SPCORE and 642-889 SPEDGE.
For more information, please visit the CCNP Service Provider Syllabus https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccnp_service_provider/syllabus and the following page https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-14595
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However, if you have a valid CCIP certification, then you will not be required to achieve the CCNA Service Provider certification because a valid CCIP will also fulfill the pre-requisite requirement for the CCNP Service Provider certification.
For more information, please visit the CCNP Service Provider Syllabus https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccnp_service_provider/syllabus
Wouldn't it be easier for everyone including you if Cisco adds CCIP as a prerequisite to the quoted Syllabus webpage?
It may also be helpful to include the CCNA-SP prerequisite as part of the CCIP migration tool which currently makes no mention of it when you select any of the exams you have currently passed from the CCIP program. It only mentions the corresponding exams then needed to complete from the CCNP-SP program so it can be misinterpreted that the CCNA-SP is not required if you have passed any of the CCIP exams.
I think it is poor of Cisco to discontinue a certification track without notice when I have spent a considerable amount of money to pursue something that has now been watered down by a newer certification. Those already in the track should qualify for whatever tests are needed to obtain the new certification. Cisco makes millions upon millions in training dollars. I do not. They will say, well the CCIP is still valid. I would say it is valid, but it would also be true that an 1972 Chevy is a car like a 2013 Porsche. Both run down the street. Which would be better to have? Which would be more desirable? They should give those in progress or completed since this notice went out the ability to take those tests with no additional charge, and provide some training materials since typically there are no materials for the newest certs.
Also, I relied on the on-line tool which indicates that no additional certs would be needed based upon the tests I have completed. Now, it looks like that tool is wrong or poorly written.
To bad for us.
They do this every 3-4 years - and the CCIP has been around for longer than that. They gave folks six months to finish the certification, and if that is not enough time for you - no big deal - you have a migration path!
Things in IT are constantly evolving - that is part of the job. No company is going to sit back and wait on folks. Cisco does a pretty decent job of giving candidates a heads up. Yes, they could do better, but every company has room for improvement in their certification program.
You are right WM, when you have spent a lot of time and money to complete an exam, it phases out. I had plan to finish my CCIP by end of JULY. I have my ROUTE and QOS, only needing the MPLS/BGP exam. Travis is also right, i have been working with a Servie Provider and went through some courses for the CCIP, which i think is missing a lot of information, the courses really needs an update. I will still sit my MPLS/BGP hopefully by end of June and get my CCIP certificate.
Rigo said that with my CCIP, i only need to pass 2 exams(642-887 SPCORE and 642-889 SPEDGE) to get my CCNP Service Provider, while other testers without the CCIP will need to sit the CCNA Service Provider + 4 other exams.