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GNS Idle PC

Jan 23, 2012 8:28 AM

Fabri 182 posts since
Aug 12, 2010

Hello guys,

I decided to learn and to master the use of GNS to prepare for the upcoming certifications.

I have read many guides and video tutorials reported on other posts.

 

After mounting the IOS that you see below:

 

gns.jpg

 

with these images can not establish a good IDLE PC values ​​because the CPUs are always high and the calculations of 'IDLE PC almost never come with an asterisk.

 

gns2.jpg

 

 

Maybe I put the IOS for routers require too much power?

  • arteq 1,733 posts since
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    1. Jan 23, 2012 9:27 AM (in response to Fabri)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    try other ios versions as well... i never liked fiddling with the idle pc values because it took so much time away from actual progress... and the switch support is just not there... for professional certs i'd recommend investing in equipment... that's what i did...

  • Nuno 305 posts since
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    2. Jan 23, 2012 9:41 AM (in response to Fabri)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    Hi Fabrizio,

     

    Try to hardcode this value like i have in the picture. I would recomend decompressing the images first. The steps are:

     

    1- Extract the image to the images folder.

    2- Rename the image name to the IOS name_version with the extention '.image'; like this: for IOS image of c3725-advsecurityk9-mz.124-3.bin, rename it to: c3725-advsecurityk9-mz.124-3.image

    3- In GNS point to that image.

    4- Start a router with that same image and try resetting the idlepc value, or try using the one in the picture. (though if im not mistaken, idle pc values depend on your processor architecture and memory, so my value might not work for you, there is no harm in giving it a try.)

     

    hope it helps.

     

    ps: gns will work 95% for route studies not for switching.idlepc.jpg

  • Martin 13,071 posts since
    Jan 16, 2009
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    3. Jan 23, 2012 4:56 PM (in response to Fabri)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    Uncompressing image may help but is only necessary for 2600s routers (as some of those crash)

    usually there are many values to choose from, select value marked with * or lower value

     

    here are some good tips https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/23445

     

    Before you do IDLE-PC, do this:

    - start one router,

    - open one console window,

    - set up exec-timeout 0 0 (or no exec-timeout)

    - save config with wr

    - do IDLE-PC

     

    Idle-pc is per IOS, and it is saved automatically now.

  • Greg, CCNP, JNCIP 171 posts since
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    4. Jan 23, 2012 10:50 AM (in response to Fabri)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    When I first got GNS3, I tried it on Windows 7, and it pegged my CPU utilization at 100%.  This was even after setting Idle PC, w/ a simple 4-router network of 3725s, and running on a PC w/ AMD Phenom II x4 (quad-core), 8 GB DRAM.  Then I read somewhere that GNS3 runs better under Linux.

     

    So now I have GNS3 on Ubuntu Linux, running inside of Virtualbox under Win7, w/ 2 GB DRAM assigned to Ubuntu.  This setup uses more memory than just running GNS3 under Windows, but the weird thing is that it performs much better than GNS3 directly on Windows.  Even running a 10-router OSPF network, not setting Idle PC, my overall CPU usage is between 25%(idle, keepalives) and 80% (establishing neighborships, converging).

  • arteq 1,733 posts since
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    5. Jan 23, 2012 10:52 AM (in response to Greg, CCNP, JNCIP)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    because linux is elegant and windows is a pig...

  • Martin 13,071 posts since
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    6. Jan 23, 2012 10:59 AM (in response to Greg, CCNP, JNCIP)
    Re: GNS Idle PC
    Then I read somewhere that GNS3 runs better under Linux.

    on weak and old CPU = Yes, but on new ones, no or there is no significant difference between Win and Linux.

     

    see my test https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/25577

  • Greg, CCNP, JNCIP 171 posts since
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    7. Jan 23, 2012 11:13 AM (in response to arteq)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    In some cases that's true.  In my experience (long and varied), no single solution/vendor is a perfect fit for every need.

  • carlos 479 posts since
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    8. Jan 23, 2012 1:42 PM (in response to arteq)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    You have to understand that not everybody can afford real gear.

  • arteq 1,733 posts since
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    9. Jan 23, 2012 2:27 PM (in response to carlos)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    understood, carlos, and i truly wish everyone here could...  through the years i spent untold sums of money on books, videos, simulations, etc... ultimately, that money was better served towards building a lab... i think GNS is the most amazing thing that has happened for network learning in the last ten years... i think it incumbent on cisco to partner with that technology, embrace it, and create, not a simulator, not an emulator, but a full blown virtualized environment, and make that available, at a reasonable cost of course, to all who truly want and desire it... 

  • Nuno 305 posts since
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    11. Jan 23, 2012 4:40 PM (in response to Fabri)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    i dont think you gonna need the 1700. i do not use it and my gns3 can't handle it (at least on my box, i got corei5 x64 and 4 gig of ram).the other ones depending on which certifications are you trying to accomplish, i would recommend "adventerprisek9" for the others but there is a tool which you can research which you should go for:

     

    http://tools.cisco.com/ITDIT/CFN/jsp/compareImages.jsp

  • Martin 13,071 posts since
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    12. Jan 23, 2012 4:56 PM (in response to Fabri)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    You are not making changes to IOS, you cannot unless you are Cisco guy who have tools like compiler. 

    idle-pc make changes to GNS3 when you run IOS on your PC;

     

    They all support Telephony (not sure about 3600s) with advanced IOS version.

    For CCNA/CCNP you need version 12.4T advanced with IPv6 and other goodies.

  • Nuno 305 posts since
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    13. Jan 23, 2012 5:02 PM (in response to Martin)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    not sure about the 3600 support for Telephony though, never tried it.

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    14. Jan 23, 2012 5:23 PM (in response to Fabri)
    Re: GNS Idle PC

    Hi!

     

    I have found that along with a good Idle PC value, there is another little "trick" youcan use to reduce the CPU utilization.  Here is an excerpt of on of my .net files.  You can add the statement idlemax = 100.

     

    autostart = False

    [localhost:7200]

        workingdir = working

        udp = 10000

        [[3725]]

            image = /Applications/Dynagen/images/c3725-adventerprisek9-mz.124-15.T10.bin

            ram = 128

            disk0 = 64

            idlepc = 0x62b21ea4

            idlemax = 100

            ghostios = True

     

    I have found that after adding that to my .net files that my CPU went way down when I used it in conjunction with a good idle pc setting.

     

    Best wishes to you in your certification goals.

     

    Erick

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