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CCIE Lab equipment

Sep 12, 2011 8:15 AM

Rizwan Ayub 120 posts since
May 6, 2009

Hello all

            I just want to practice individual technology for CCIE written and have ordered 3*2691 64F/160D routers and 2*3550 with EMI and also looking forward to buy a frame relay router as well as access server. But am confused because should i buy the equipment with a work book lab scenario in mind or with my own preparation in mind?? I haven't bought any work books yet as i am working slowly and carefully with the written and want to prepare 80 % of lab before written.

 

Regards,

 

Rizwan Ayub

  • Martin 13,077 posts since
    Jan 16, 2009
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    1. Sep 12, 2011 8:31 AM (in response to Rizwan Ayub)
    Re: CCIE Lab equipment

    It is up to you, most of us will use workbooks like those from INE.

    I am affraid you need 2611XM, not 2691;

    and c3550 are not enough for CCIE; u will need 2 of c3560;

    There are guys that lab CCIE with GNS3 and 4 real switches; I would skip buying routers and get 2 c3550 and 2 c3560;

     

    see for details http://www.ciscoland.net/CCIE_Labs.html

    and

    here is topology details:

    http://www.ine.com/topology.htm

     

    INE has also rack to rent (as many other places)

    http://www.ine.com/rack-rentals.htm#Overview

  • Brian McGahan - 4 x CCIE, CCDE 645 posts since
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    2. Sep 12, 2011 8:53 AM (in response to Rizwan Ayub)
    Re: CCIE Lab equipment

    The platforms don't matter as much as what IOS they can run.  You want to make sure that you can run 12.4T Advanced Enterprise Services.

     

    As you get further into your preparation for the lab, you'll probably want to get at least three more routers, a router for a Frame Relay switch, and an access server.  For the other routers I would get either 2611XM or 1841, for the Frame Relay switch a 2522 or a 3600 with two NM-4A/S modules, and for the access server either a 2511 or a 2600 with an NM-16A module.

     

    You should also get one or more additional switches for advanced spanning tree scenarios.  3550s are fine and cheaper, but there are some minor differences between them and the 3560s.

  • Martin 13,077 posts since
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    5. Sep 12, 2011 10:08 AM (in response to Rizwan Ayub)
    Re: CCIE Lab equipment

    you can load EMI IOS onto 3550's SMI platform;

    3560 are needed for Private Vlans, QoS traffic, VACLs, and something else I forgot;

     

    ciscoland also have XM routers in both CCIE and CCNP labs;

    What about GNS3 ?

  • Brian McGahan - 4 x CCIE, CCDE 645 posts since
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    7. Sep 12, 2011 10:21 AM (in response to Rizwan Ayub)
    Re: CCIE Lab equipment

    Yes you can use a mix of 3550s and 3560s.  3550s lack IPv6 routing support, Private VLAN support, and behave different from 3560s in some minor cases such as default port modes and QoS.  In reality the platforms are more than 95% identical.

  • Sey 1,388 posts since
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    8. Sep 12, 2011 1:24 PM (in response to Rizwan Ayub)
    Re: CCIE Lab equipment

    Martin there are some issues regarding running EMI on 3550 with SMI...i have talked to sellers and it is not possible i guess for us to change that easily.

    This is not true. There are no technical restrictions or problems when upgrading SMI to EMI. 3550s are the best nonexpensive switches today for studying.

  • Martin 13,077 posts since
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    9. Sep 12, 2011 5:04 PM (in response to Rizwan Ayub)
    Re: CCIE Lab equipment
    talked to sellers and it is not possible

    well, they want your money, hehehe

    I loaded EMI onto SMI platform and works fine; I would not recommand this for production switch but for lab is OK;

     

    GNS3 is emulator running on real IOS; I think is better than real rotuer;

  • brackmr 9 posts since
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    12. Feb 17, 2013 1:25 AM (in response to Rizwan Ayub)
    Re: CCIE Lab equipment

    The IOS licence on Cisco Routers does not transfer with the router. As for using a used 2691 router for Cisco Training, you cannot go wrong. The 2691 has 3 WIC slots & 1 NM Slot. you can have 256 MB of ram and 128 MB of flash ( the flash is a module that can be removed Also, the 2691 can run c2691-adventerprisek9-mz.124-25d.bin ADVANCED ENTERPRISE SERVICES 12.4(25d).  This router can be used for most of your Cisco Training.

  • Sey 1,388 posts since
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    13. Feb 17, 2013 6:37 AM (in response to Rizwan Ayub)
    Re: CCIE Lab equipment

    Better late than never

     

    @sey i know you could have done it but i know for a fact that if i buy second hand cisco switches then i don't have a valid IOS licence. I guess and correct me if am wrong that licence is specific to customers not devices. So even if am using a pirated version for learning purpose am using it the wrong way and i don't wana do it any how, so why so many problems for couple of extra bucks but infact i guess they both cost same

    The interesting thing here is that it doesn't matter if you pay resellers more for an EMI software, as this violates Cisco licensing anyway. You can resell hardware but not IOS. Technically you must purchase a license from Cisco for every piece of used hardware you buy.

  • Martin 13,077 posts since
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    14. Feb 18, 2013 1:08 PM (in response to Sey)
    Re: CCIE Lab equipment

    wow, just be careful reading inital posting date is Sep 12, 2011 ; 2 years old

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