5 Replies Latest reply: Jul 20, 2019 5:42 AM by steven.crutchley RSS

    CCIE SP Lab - new prerequisites

    steven.crutchley

      So first off, I must apologies if I am posting this question in the wrong place. Navigating these sites can be a bit of a maze so if I've posted a generic cert question in a technical community forum - feel free to redirect or block this post - but any guidance in the right direction would be appreciated.


      I already have my CCNP SP and this was my plan to reach CCIE Service Provider.


      1. Sit the written at the beginning of August 2019.
      2. Go for the lab sometime mid 2020 (June or July perhaps)


      Obviously the changes Cisco have make have thrown a very large spanner into this plan.


      My understanding is that the written portion of the CCIE program is being replaced by the Core Technologies exam which is part of the CCNP program.


      So I'm at a crossroads at a moment and it depends on how the transition takes place.


      My first question would be - do I, as someone who is already CCNP SP, "inherit" this Core Technologies exam as an existing CCNP?

      • If yes, that means that as of Feb 2020, without doing anything, I have fulfilled the requirement to sit the lab (which means yiipee! no written).
      • If no (which I suspect is the more likely answer), then the question becomes: If I pass my written exam in August as originally planned, do I still need to sit the Core Technologies exam if I sit my Lab after February?
        • If yes, that means there is no point in me paying the money and sitting the exam in August if I need to sit another exam after February.
        • If no, this means the written exam transitions over to being a prerequisite for the new CCIE Lab exam (in spite of the different content) and I will keep going as normal... but then the question becomes: How different is the content in the new CCIE compared to the old one?
          • If it is significantly different perhaps it is better to go for the Core Technologies exam as it will be more relevant?
          • If it isn't then, I just go for my written as normal and adjust my study resources to adapt to the new exam.

       

      Of course I could just go all in and gun for the old style written and lab before February - but I'm not sure if that's wise, for two reasons, (1) I'm not sure I'll be ready in time (2) Surely it would be better to get the newer certification?


      Needless to say this is spinning me in circles a bit at the moment.


      I haven't even started to look at what the new content of the lab exam will be or if the study resources I'm using that the moment will be relevant.


      Can anyone answer my above questions or point me to a document/resource that does?

        • 1. Re: CCIE SP Lab - new prerequisites
          BAYO

          "My first question would be - do I, as someone who is already CCNP SP, "inherit" this Core Technologies exam as an existing CCNP?

          • If yes, that means that as of Feb 2020, without doing anything, I have fulfilled the requirement to sit the lab (which means yiipee! no written)."


          The CCNP has not been used as a track to qualify for the CCIE SP certification. You Will still have to do the CCIE SP written to qualify for the CCIE SP Lab


          "If no (which I suspect is the more likely answer), then the question becomes: If I pass my written exam in August as originally planned, do I still need to sit the Core Technologies exam if I sit my Lab after February?"


          Once you pass the CCIE SP written in August, its will suffix for the requirement to qualify for the new CCIE SP 5.0 Lab, so yes you just move along.


          1.0 Core Routing

          25%

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          2.0 Architectures and Services

          25%

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          3.0 Access Connectivity

          10%

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          4.0 High Availability and Fast Convergence

          10%

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          5.0 Security

          10%

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          6.0 Assurance and Automation

          20%

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          Below is the Current CCIE SP 4.1, you will notice that there are fewer changes, the CCIE SP v5.0 seems to have been more streamlined.

           

          Domain

          Written Exam (%)

          Lab Exam (%)

          1.0 Core Routing

          25%

          30%

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          2.0 Service Provider Architecture and Services

          21%

          22%

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          3.0 Access and Aggregation

          18%

          21%

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          4.0 High Availability and Fast Convergence

          14%

          15%

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          5.0 Service Provider Security, Operation, and Management

          12%

          12%

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          6.0 Evolving Technologies v1.1

          10%

          N/A

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          Note that after February 2020, the written qualifying exam now gets awarded Specialist certificate, but the current written does not. You can only get awarded the Specialist certificate only if you do the CCIE SP Lab before February 2020.

          Hope this helps?

           

          • 2. Re: CCIE SP Lab - new prerequisites
            steven.crutchley

            Thanks Bayo,

             

            Much appreciated that helps me keep my study on track.

             

            Where did you get the blueprint for the new lab exam format and the transition policy regarding the written prerequisites? You don't happen to have a direct link do you? I'll have a hunt around the regular sites later today but if you've got a url to the right page to save me from link-hopping for an afternoon that'd be awesome

            • 3. Re: CCIE SP Lab - new prerequisites
              David

              This is incorrect. It has been confirmed by Cisco (for the R&S/enterprise track) that a valid CCNP acts as the prerequisite for the CCIE come February. Re: CCNP Migration

              I would be shocked if it were different for the SP track.

              • 4. Re: CCIE SP Lab - new prerequisites
                Matt

                It's the same for all tracks, CCNP core exam, is essentially the CCIE written.

                • 5. Re: CCIE SP Lab - new prerequisites
                  steven.crutchley

                  So according to the CCNP SP migration tool:


                  I will receive the following certifications after February 24 2020:


                  • Cisco Certified Specialist - Service Provider Core
                  • Cisco Certified Specialist - Service Provider Advanced Routing Implementation
                  • Cisco Certified Specialist - Service Provider VPN Services Implementation

                   

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                  And according to the CCIE SP migration notes the written exam will be replaced by the SPCOR 300-501 which, if I pass, will give me the "Cisco Certified Specialist - Service Provider Core certification", which I should already inherit according to the migration tool.


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                  So... the question now becomes,


                  After Februrary 24 2019, what exactly counts as the prerequisite for the v5 lab exam? The SP COR exam or the certification?


                  Because according to the CCIE SP Exam section the exam is the prerequisite. But is this the same as the certification, or not? The language is a bit ambiguous...


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