13 Replies Latest reply: Mar 20, 2014 10:24 AM by Howard RSS

    I need some help to start studying

    switch_bridge

      Hey all,

      I am looking for some help to start studying the CCNA-wireless.

       

      1. I found out that there was old exam 640-721 and new one 640-722 ? what is the difference ? I couldn't find study guide for the new one ? is it available or not yet ? also I found a quick reference book ? is it enough ? it sounds too small for me like 100 pages only

      2. is there any lab questions like the CCNA ? or is it theories exam ?

      3. how much time does it take (in average) to study ?

      4. is it considered to be hard to pass exam ?

      5. anyone is going to start studying soon here ?

       

      any advices would be highly appreciated

      Many thanks in advanced.

       

      Regards,

      Noor 

        • 1. Re: I need some help to start studying
          Jared

          The difference between the 2 exams is that the 640-722 is tested on a later version of code with newer features.  Many of th basic principles are the same.  I would encourage you to use the Quick ref guide for the new test.  I don't even think you can take the old test anymore as it is antiquated.

          • 2. Re: I need some help to start studying
            Jerome Henry

            2. This is part of NDA, so we won't be able to help with this question...

            3. It depends on your initial background. You need to know the theory of 802.11, and the basics of Cisco wireless. Preping for the exam itself (quick reference reading, notes etc), can typically take 10 to 40 hours, but that's once youhave acquired the knowledge you need...

            4. It is not an easy exam, but it is often said to be a rather fair exam (no questions that cannot be answered with the knowledge of a CCNAW, limited number of questions that are tough to answer).

            What is your background? The above is very general, but much depends on what you have been working on, and your exposure to certifications. Do you have a CCNA R&S? Do you work with wireless?

            • 3. Re: I need some help to start studying
              switch_bridge

              Thank you I want to start with the quick reference very soon !

              • 4. Re: I need some help to start studying
                switch_bridge

                Thank you Jerome for ur informative answer, I have CCNA R&S / Voice ... and just started wireless job in which they will give us a good 3 to 4 weeks of training. But I thought it would be great if I can pass CCNA Wireless before my evalution

                • 5. Re: I need some help to start studying
                  Frank

                  The CCNA wireless Study guide IUWNE for exam 640-721 from Todd Lammle is a must even though for last exam, covers WLANS soup to nuts.

                  • 6. Re: I need some help to start studying
                    Ravi Dubey (CCNA R&S, CCNA Wireless, CCNP Wireless)

                    Hi Buddy,

                     

                    I am CCNA Wireless certified and want to help you in this.

                     

                    I scored 967/1000

                     

                    Answers to your questions

                     

                    1. I found out that there was old exam 640-721 and new one 640-722 ? what is the difference ? I couldn't find study guide for the new one ? is it available or not yet ? also I found a quick reference book ? is it enough ? it sounds too small for me like 100 pages only

                    Ans: Yes it is available in market but if you have 640-721 + Quick reference then also it will work.

                     

                    2. is there any lab questions like the CCNA ? or is it theories exam ?

                    Ans: Yes you will have lab question but not configuration.

                     

                    3. how much time does it take (in average) to study ?

                    Ans: 3 Hrs a day for a month is sufficient (Considering you have environment)

                     

                    4. is it considered to be hard to pass exam ?

                    Ans: Nope, You just need to start.

                     

                    5. anyone is going to start studying soon here ?

                    Please let me know if you have any doubt.

                     

                     

                    Ravi Dubey

                    Network Engineer

                    B.Tech (EEE)

                    CCNA (R&S), CCNA Wireless and ITILv3

                    IEEE Member

                    E-Mail: eravidubey@gmail.com

                    New Delhi, India

                    • 7. Re: I need some help to start studying
                      jim_jones_uc

                      I typically like the Premium Edition of the Cisco Press books.  Typically gets you an ebook and up to 4 Practice Exams with a common engine that helps you prepare. I've successfully done a recert of my CCNA R&S and the CCNA Voice successfully in the last year using these as my primary method of study and was very satisfied.  Looks like the new edition for the CCNA Wireless will be available next week.

                       

                      http://www.ciscopress.com/store/ccna-wireless-640-722-official-cert-guide-premium-edition-9780133445800

                      • 8. Re: I need some help to start studying
                        Jeff Rensink

                        There are 2 books that you should pick up from Cisco Press.

                         

                        First, grab the "CCNA Wireless 640-722 Official Cert Guide" by David Hucaby.  This was just released and will go into the deepest detail of the exam topics.  It also comes with practice exams, which is nice.

                         

                        Also, grab the "CCNA Wireless (640-722 IUWNE) Quick Reference Guide" by Jerome Henry (who happened to reply in this thread above already).  This is much shorter, but gets right to the point on the topics to know.  It should be a good companion to the first book.

                         

                        You can find those books at the link below.  Just scroll down to the bottom.

                         

                        http://www.ciscopress.com/markets/detail.asp?st=98141

                         

                        If you would like to suppliment the above books with videos, I just released a video series for the exam that you can find at the link below. 

                         

                        http://www.ipexpert.com/Cisco/CCNA/Wireless/Video-on-Demand

                         

                        It could take you a month to pass the exam or it could take 4-6 months.  Everyone seems to have their own pace.  But the keys would be to get some good study materials and then put in dedicated time on a regular basis to pouring through them.  Try to study a little bit every day (or at least most days).  That will be better than 1-2 binge studying session each week.  Also, throw in some hands on practice if possible to really help lock the information in. 

                         

                        The better you prepare, the easier it will be. 

                        • 9. Re: I need some help to start studying
                          Howard

                          My question would be how to get hands on practice?  Especially if you don't have access to equipment at work.  Is there a good simulator or does one have to spend the money on building a wireless lab?

                          • 10. Re: I need some help to start studying
                            jim_jones_uc

                            I've not seen a simulator but you could probably get some aps fairly cheap on eBay (I actually might have a couple I'd be willing to sell for a lab) and find a small controller like a 5508 there as well.  Another option if you have any VMware capabilities in your lab would be to look at the vWLC. I think you can get a 200 day demo license for this for free, you'd just need the APs to play with.  There are some specific requirements for your ESXi host that need to be there (at least 2 NICs but you could fake that through nested hosts.

                             

                            UPDATE: I just verified that as long as you have a valid CCO ID you can download the virtual Wireless Lan Controller and it will run unlicensed for up to 60 days. Should be plenty long enough to study for a CCNA level test.

                            • 11. Re: I need some help to start studying
                              Jared

                              There are no simulators that I have seen.  Your best bet is to build a small wireless lab with a controller and a couple of APs.  It's kind of hard to simulate RF.

                              • 12. Re: I need some help to start studying
                                Jeff Rensink

                                While the vWLC is a free option for a controller, it might not be the best thing to start out on if you can swing buying a physical controller.

                                 

                                Some of the downsides of the vWLC for the CCNA would be as follows...

                                • It runs newer code than what you will see referenced in the CCNA (which means extra features, different naming of things, and different looking screens sometimes)
                                • Some features are not supported on the vWLC and will be missing
                                • It only allows APs to be joined in FlexConnect (H-REAP) mode, which is minimally limiting
                                • It can be a hassle getting older (cheaper) APs joined up to a vWLC due to the certificate issue, which will be amplified for newbies

                                 

                                For a CCNA (and honestly for CCNP as well), the 2100 series WLC is your best entry level option.  Looks like people are getting them for $150-$175 shipped on ebay on a fairly regular basis.  If you want to expand later, the 4402 is a good option for a 2nd controller.

                                 

                                Then pick up 1-2 APs.  For the CCNA/NP level the 1131 is a great option.  It supports both lightweight and autonomous code and it's pretty cheap.  You should be able to snag them for around $35. 

                                 

                                Lastly, pick up a 3550 PoE switch for $80-$100 and you've got yourself a nice little lab.  That's one of the cheapest layer 3 PoE switches that you'll find.  You'll want PoE to power your APs.  Yes, the 2016 does have some PoE ports on it.  But those are only usable with APs in lightweight mode.  So any autonomous work will require the AP being plugged into a switch.

                                 

                                It is a little bit of an investment.  But if you can swing it, it's worth it.  You are investing in yourself and your career as you do these certifications.  And it will definitely pay off down the road.

                                • 13. Re: I need some help to start studying
                                  Howard

                                  Thanks for the great advice Jeff and Jim.

                                  I guess I should have stated for the CCNA.  My experience for Associate level exams are they can be learned fairly well with simulators and knowledge study.  They mostly have been theory and practice with the setup and low level commands.

                                  I do realize RF is hard to similate, but its really hard to test that on a computer as well.   

                                  I understand the investment aspect, I have a CCIE level rack for my R&S and Design studies.  This means PoE switch is not an issue.  The controllers were the part I was most worried about.