12 Replies Latest reply: May 9, 2012 7:04 PM by Warren Sullivan - CCNP RSS

    building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys

    pasquale

      My Fellow Cisco Certification Members!

       

      I am preparing for my CCNP route exam and have that one only left to become CCNP then I want to continue with CCDP as I will need only the ARCH.

       

      Anyway enough with my dreams. I have saved some money finally over the years to work with Real Gear and here I am with

       

      1x cisco 2613

      1xcisco 3640

      1xcisco 2650

      1x2621XM

      2x1801

       

      So I have started to setup my topology and route labs and all god till here now I have reached the stage that I need to setup my 3640 as Frame-Relay router

      which works for the two WIC -1T i ahve with the following model of Module:

      Slot 2:Combo 2E, 2W port adapter, 4 ports so I thoughed I purcahase a othet 2W port adapater but when I plug it in it tells me that he does nto recognize it and I believe this is due to IOS that is very old on it or i just lost some money..

       

      I am currently running with very low memory so do not have a lot of options but can someone please advise me to which IOS i can or should upgrade by having this at the moment:

       

      HomeLab-RT02#sh flash all
      Partition   Size    Used      Free      Bank-Size  State          Copy Mode
        1         8192K   5323K     2868K     4096K      Read/Write     Direct

      System flash directory:
      File  Length   Name/status
              addr      fcksum  ccksum
        1   5450844  c3640-is-mz.120-28d.bin 
              0x40      0xE78B  0xE78B
      [5450908 bytes used, 2937700 available, 8388608 total]
      8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

       
      And for RTR-03:

       

       

      HomeLab-RT02#sh flash all
      Partition   Size    Used      Free      Bank-Size  State          Copy Mode
        1         8192K   5323K     2868K     4096K      Read/Write     Direct

      System flash directory:
      File  Length   Name/status
              addr      fcksum  ccksum
        1   5450844  c3640-is-mz.120-28d.bin 
              0x40      0xE78B  0xE78B
      [5450908 bytes used, 2937700 available, 8388608 total]
      8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

       

       

      last one which one do I need or can I upgrade to for this guy:

       

      HomeLab-RT01#sh flash all
      Partition   Size    Used      Free      Bank-Size  State          Copy Mode
        1        16383K   5447K    10936K     8192K      Read/Write     Direct

      System flash directory:
      File  Length   Name/status
              addr      fcksum  ccksum
        1   5578652  ? 
              0x40      0xBED4  0xBED4
      [5578716 bytes used, 11198496 available, 16777212 total]
      16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

       

      Please advise guys if you can...

      much appreciated

        • 1. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
          arteq

          i have a few routers at home... i use 3 2620xm's for frame set up... the frame switch (router) has 2 wics and attaches easily to the the serial ports of 2 other 2620's... comes up without a problem with proper configuration, which i have uploaded to my documents here  at cln...if you can get two wics working on at least one router, you can build a frame switch easily.... the two other routers will only need 1 wic...

          • 2. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
            pasquale

            Hi Arteq,

             

            Thank you but that is not my problem. I alredy have two WICs working. My problem is that I purchase another 2W Module for my 3640 router and it does not get recognized and therfore i think it is because of the old ios i have on all of these and with the little memoery i am looking for advice based on my show flash commands to which version i should go and could go also to get some better command options...

             

            thank you

            • 3. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
              Martin

              Save money for c3560 switches; you can use GNS3 for ROUTE exam, then real switches and then connect real gear to GNS3 via dual-NICs or quad-NIC or via Ubuntu with Breakout switch.

               

              if you search the forum, you can find some ready GNS3 labs that you would not be able to do with real gear.

              for example this one from Joshua based on Route book by W. Odom (I think)

               

              route.png

              https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-13120

              • 4. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
                pasquale

                Martin,

                 

                Thank you for the diagram I will use it but nobody has answered my question so far...

                Based on the show flash all I need to know is advise me the iOS I need to go as the current ones

                Are old and not recognizing my new wan module specially on the 3640s

                And I have purchased several wic 1t to add to he new module so I am stuck with the 3640s

                With only two working wic 1t while I could have another 2 now to use and create a frame router with 4 links instead of two...

                Please help...

                • 5. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
                  Martin

                  never saw 3640 use as a FR;

                   

                  Try different IOS after upgrading some memory;

                  INE uses 2522 with old IOS version for its FR switch;  others have 3725 router;

                   

                  Try the cisco support site for more advanced technical questions; https://supportforums.cisco.com/index.jspa

                  search there or ask question;

                   

                  good luck

                  • 6. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
                    Legnica69

                    You not only waist time but money trying to figure this one; Use GNS3 like Martin said; it is more convenient;

                    how much time did u spend already on figuring out? that time is gone; instead of studying, you working on figuring out router.

                    • 7. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
                      pasquale

                      I am sorry guy but I do not agree at all. I like working with REAL Gear and not with simulators..yes they are fine but I prefer the real thing. By the way I figured it out and I got it running as I wanted. thank you for your advice.

                      • 8. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
                        Martin

                        Good for you! glad is working; GNS3 is emulator (not simulator) and it is the best thing next to real gear; sometimes is better; CCIE guys are using it;

                        GNS3 has one problem with interfaces showing up when they suppose to be down but besides this GNS3 is OK for routing.

                        • 9. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
                          tommarcoen

                          pasquale, it would be awesome if you could give us some show version output for the switches that you would like a new IOS installed on. That way we will know the hardware you are using and how old your "old IOS version" really is. If I'm not mistaking, it also displays the amount of RAM etcetera.

                          • 10. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
                            tommarcoen

                            There are really two options when you want to build labs to study for your certifications. Either you use GNS3 or you use the real labs. I have a full blown CCIE R&S and Security lab at home but I also use GNS3. It all depends. For big exercises, I like to use the real lab, for a quick check, I power on GNS3.

                             

                            Which one is best, you ask? It all depends. Some features (switching for example) aren't supported on GNS3, as Martin correctly pointed out. But if you want to buy a real lab, you have to invest money. You can't buy cheap *** routers with almost no memory and expect them to run every feature you desire.

                             

                            I've spent thousands of dollars on my lab and now I will have to invest hundreds of dollars more to get memory upgrades so I can run better IOS images that support zone-based firewalling. If I can't cough up the money needed, I will have to use GNS3 or don't practice labs. It's that simple, really. As much as you want it, if you can't pay for it, don't botter.

                            • 11. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
                              Martin

                              and what if IOS version requirements change for exams like CCIE lab or CCNP or CCNA,?

                              then you will have to buy more new/used gear, right ?

                               

                              if exam move to  IOS 15; we are in big trouble.

                              • 12. Re: building my CCNP route LAB need IOS advice guys
                                Warren Sullivan - CCNP

                                For shear practice, you need to find out the following....google is your friend

                                 

                                1. is the module compatable with the router?

                                 

                                2. if it is, what image is required for the module to be recognised by the router?

                                 

                                This is done through the cisco website/docs, google the actual module name and router name and chuck combatability in there too, you will find cisco docs on the module, from there you can search through the docs for supported routers and IOS requirements...

                                 

                                You need to do this yourself, because when you do this stuff for a job, you have to do this stuff all the time, its an important skill.....

                                 

                                As for the comment by Legnica69, using real gear is NOT a waste of time, how many companies use GNS3 for their routing? try telling a prospective employer that you have only worked on an emulator......hmmmmm

                                 

                                There's nothing like the real deal

                                 

                                Cheers

                                Warren