I LOVE the idea, just be sure to keep these points in mind as you progress through CCIP:
- With your BGP training in CCIP, there will indeed be quite a bit of overlap with the BGP material that you covered in ROUTE. You will certainly go beyond ROUTE if the course is doen correctly, but there will be overlap.
- With QoS - if you choose the right course, it is critical for success in CCIE R&S. This information DOES NOT get adequate coverage in CCENT - CCNA - CCNP.
- With MPLS, be careful. The course will go beyond what is required for CCIE. For the exact details of what you need for CCIE with MPLS, please check my post below.
I've also decided to go the CCIP > CCIE RS route, specifically because of the heavier focus on EGPs and QoS. I have adjusted my CCIE RS study schedule to include these topics as part of my studying based on the exam outline for CCIP, of which I hope to complete the BGP+MPLS and QoS exams before the first half of this year.
I think with those topics under your belt you will be very prepared for the CCIE RS, and it will likely give you more options going forward, even if it means just making you a well-rounded network specialist.
What materials are you using for study I had look on the Cisco press website and there are two titles available for mpls, 1 bgp book and an exam cert guide for Qos. http://www.ciscopress.com/markets/detail.asp?st=44745
I would probably need to do some CBT, there are few I have looked at INE are doing the full CCIP course and CBT nuggets. Although the INE material seems to be more in depth
I usually have a very haphazard way of studying, and the CCIE Lab is the first exam I actually have a whole schedule for. I usually take the exam blueprint and study the topic conceptually, using various sources and resources.
That being said, I replied to this thread, https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/32547#203552, to find out from BIGEVIL if he found his approach sufficient, as it looks very good. I will likely follow the same approach as far as resources go.
I haven't spent too much time looking at any sort of CBT material for the various topics, but I will look at the CBT Nuggest material, as well as perhaps the INE stuff. I just haven't given it too much though yet.
All, i'm on the same crossroads here... I've been fighting with myself on what I should do next. I really want to just study for CCIE, and CCIE only. What should I do? Should I just use my current equipment (which includes gns3 with 3x quad port server nics) and my 4x 3550 switches?
As far as books go, I'm looking at the CCIE reading list and I'm trying to figure out which ones to buy... it's a bit overwhelming
CCIE R&S Reading List
This page lists books on topics appearing on the CCIE Written and Lab Exam. These books are not required study resources, however, they can be used to build knowledge in certain areas.
Many of the Cisco Press books are available to certified individuals and Cisco customers at prices discounted up to 30% off. To check for discounts, visit the Cisco Marketplace, click on (Cisco Press) Bookstore, and login with your Cisco CCO ID. Search for the titles using the ISBN number indicated.
- CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide
- CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Quick Reference: Exam 350-001 v3.1 (Digital Short Cut)
- CCIE Routing and Switching Practice Labs (Digital Short Cut)
- Routing TCP/IP, Volume 1
- Routing TCP/IP, Volume II (CCIE Professional Development)
- Troubleshooting IP Routing Protocols
- Inside Cisco IOS Software Architecture (CCIE Professional Development Series)
- Cisco LAN Switching (CCIE Professional Development series)
- Cisco OSPF Command and Configuration Handbook (paperback)
- Cisco BGP-4 Command and Configuration Handbook
- Cisco Field Manual: Router Configuration
- Cisco Field Manual: Catalyst Switch Configuration
- Developing IP Multicast Networks, Volume I
- Internet Routing Architectures
- MPLS and VPN Architectures
- MPLS and VPN Architectures, Volume II
- Cisco Catalyst QoS: Quality of Service in Campus Networks (paperback)
- End-to-End QoS Network Design: Quality of Service in LANs, WANs, and VPNs
- Deploying IPv6 Networks
- Network Security Technologies and Solutions (CCIE Professional Development Series)
- CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide
Here's the INE CCIE Lab, is this acceptable, and should I use real routers?
Device Our Platform IOS Version Feature Set Filename R1 2610XM 12.4(10)A Advanced Enterprise Services c2600-adventerprisek9-mz.124-10a.bin R2 2610XM 12.4(10)A Advanced Enterprise Services c2600-adventerprisek9-mz.124-10a.bin R3 2610XM 12.4(10)A Advanced Enterprise Services c2600-adventerprisek9-mz.124-10a.bin R4 1841 12.4(24)T1 Advanced Enterprise Services c1841-adventerprisek9-mz.124-24.T1.bin R5 1841 12.4(24)T1 Advanced Enterprise Services c1841-adventerprisek9-mz.124-24.T1.bin R6 1841 12.4(24)T1 Advanced Enterprise Services c1841-adventerprisek9-mz.124-24.T1.bin SW1 3560-24TS-E 12.2(44)SE EMI c3560-advipservicesk9-mz.122-44.SE.bin SW2 3560-24TS-E 12.2(44)SE EMI c3560-advipservicesk9-mz.122-44.SE.bin SW3 3550-24-EMI 12.2(25)SEC2 EMI c3550-ipservicesk9-mz.122-25.SEC2.bin SW4 3550-24-EMI 12.2(25)SEC2 EMI c3550-ipservicesk9-mz.122-25.SEC2.bin BB1 / Frame Relay Switch 2522 12.2(15)T17 IP Plus c2500-is-l.122-15.T17.bin BB2 2501 12.2(15)T17 IP Plus c2500-is-l.122-15.T17.bin BB3 2501 12.2(15)T17 IP Plus c2500-is-l.122-15.T17.bin Access Server 2511 12.2(15)T17 IP Plus c2500-is-l.122-15.T17.bin
There is no "one way fits all" answer to the CCIE. I will say this - defintely consider the QoS course from Cisco Systems for the QoS piece. It is a remarkably excellent course and covers EVERYTHING that would be required with one small exception. It does not focus 100% on the 3560s for Cat QoS.
Build a rack of emulated equipment or real equipment that you can easily afford. You can also rent a few sessions on a rack rental for those features you do not support and you need to tear up.
As a CCNP, you have a huge head start on book knowledge, so that reading list is going to be waaayyyy to much and you should not need it anyways.
Let the checklist that Cisco provides for the exam be your guide if you have questions about what to specifically study and read. Always make sure you are IN SCOPE with your study. Can you imagine the poor candidate that pours over MPLS Traffic Engineering only to discover that it is not part of the track?
If you have decided to attend my boot camp, remember..... you will get a book when you register, this book will prepare you for the boot camp, so i don't recommend going out there and spending more money to get your CCIP certification, even though it is a nice one to have. I recommend getting the books and studying them, but you don't need to get the actual cert.
I will give you all an example of a QoS, MPLS and BGP lab so you can see how these books are writen and how easy these subjects are, ONLY IF the approach is correct.
I will send you all an example of these labs tomorrow.
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